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Thursday, March 02, 2006
I think there are 325 different possible ways to fill out your mayoral IRV ballot this year, but I’m no mathematician so I'm looking for confirmation.

Here’s how I came up with that. Assume you’re going to rank all five candidates. The way to figure out the number of possible ways to arrange five things is 5x4x3x2x1=120

Now assume you’re going to rank only four candidates: 5x4x3x2=120
Three candidates: 5x4x3=60
Two candidates: 5x4=20
One candidate: 5

120+120+60+20+5=325.

Is that right? If so, that sure is a lot of different possible ways to vote. Would someone smart please comment and tell me if that’s right? One of the folks from Candleblog, perhaps?

Any-hoo, I just got back from the last mayoral debate at city hall. I have a pad full of notes on it, but no energy to write them up tonight. Look for that post soon.
posted by Haik Bedrosian @ 10:22 PM  
11 Comments:
  • At March 03, 2006 7:09 AM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    Thanks for your comment, but that's not what I'm looking for. Anybody else? Is 325 right?

     
  • At March 03, 2006 10:21 AM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    Hmmm. I forgot about write-ins. If you include write-ins, then there are an infinite number of ways to vote, which would have been true in the old system, too.

    I can't recall a single election that was won by a write-in candidate. It would make more sense to have a "none of the above" choice, because that's essentially what a write-in vote means.

     
  • At March 04, 2006 2:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ignoring the possibility of a write-in, your calculation missed one obvious voting situation: you could vote for nobody. So, the correct answer is actually 326.

    Sorry, Haik, but your comment about write-ins creating an infinite number of possible ways to fill out the ballot is incorrect. Here is the correct calculation including write-ins:

    Six Candidates creates 720 possibilities.

    Add 720 to 326 and you have 1,046 valid ways to fill out the ballot, including a write-in and a vote for nobody.

    Multiply 1,045 times the number of registered voters (plus one) and you obtain the largest possible ways that ballots can be validly submitted.

    If, however, somebody really does put a "roof on property taxes", then our educational systems will be so poor, that nobody will be able to check my math!

     
  • At March 04, 2006 9:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "then our educational systems will be so poor"

    Yes, because all of our public school teachers are *this* close to leaving for better jobs.

    Please go back to your parking meter calculations, Loyal.

     
  • At March 04, 2006 11:34 AM, Blogger Fells said…

    Everytime I consider the possibilities of the IRV system, my mathamatically inept brain explodes.....

     
  • At March 04, 2006 1:38 PM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    What better jobs are our public school teachers going to find? Teachers are lucky to have a chance to do what they love for a starting wage of about thirty grand. If they don't love teaching, they shouldn't do it anyway. There are hundreds of paraeducators with teaching degrees and licenses just waiting to take their places.

    And leave Loyal alone. He may not know every in, out, and what-have-you, but everyone knows his heart is in the right place. He's made a valuable contribution to this race.

     
  • At March 04, 2006 2:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "What better jobs are our public school teachers going to find?"

    I was being sarcastic. If you want a job teaching just figure out which of your friends already works in the school system and talk to them. The extra money from Act 60/68 hasn't raised the bar a millimeter, but don't tell anyone, it's a big secret.

    I beg to differ re: Ploof, he embarrassed himself in the ch. 17 debate, and the calculations he based one of his only issues on (lost revenue from removing parking meters) was off by a factor of almost 40. If you're going to step into the spotlight and make a fool of yourself, you better be ready for people to point and laugh.

     
  • At March 04, 2006 4:17 PM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    Yeah. Sarcastic, anonymous people just love to point and laugh at others.

    I guess I didn't pick up your ironic tone. That can be an issue with written vs. spoken language.

    Thanks for writing in. Visit BP often.

     
  • At March 05, 2006 11:15 AM, Blogger Fells said…

    Here is the thing with Loyal. I like Loyal, he is a fantastic guy and is utterly devoted to the kids in the Old North End, but he is in over his head. I think Loyal should stick to the politics of the Old North End, because that is where his passion is, and where I think he can make more of an impact on the city.

     
  • At March 06, 2006 7:42 PM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    I'll tell you how a blog hack like me gets to take shots at America's heroic public school techers.

    It's called the First Ammendment.

    If all the teachers started blogs, I would of course welcome it. And as far as them leaving for the private sector...I dare them to try!

    People love this blog, and wise comments like yours only draw more people to it. Of course you are more than welcome to change the channel Ms./Mr. "TeetsonaCow."

    Thanks for writing in.

     
  • At March 06, 2006 7:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Teetsonacow, you are a dumb ass :)

     
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